Comments on: Clinging on the way down http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:40:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Bic http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/#comment-82918 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:32:14 +0000 http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/#comment-82918 Terry- You mean like hiring Rush Limbaugh to offer up opinions on ESPN then panicking the first time he said something not politically correct? Terry- You mean like hiring Rush Limbaugh to offer up opinions on ESPN then panicking the first time he said something not politically correct?

]]> by: Jill http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/#comment-82760 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:06:26 +0000 http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/#comment-82760 Terry - thanks - I'm "the other blogger" who left. You do a really nice compare and contrast, concisely. Just one note - ironically, I just posted something about how the banner for Wide Open doesn't even have Plain Dealer in it, the way its traditional blog, Open, does. I actually noticed the absence of the words "Plain Dealer" from the Wide Open site when we started it in September. http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/11/09/picture-1000-words-the-plain-dealer-politics-blog-v-wide-open/ Again - thanks for writing about what's going on. Clearly it highlights very serious differences in perspective to say the least, between those who embrace innovation and change and flexibility, and those who are scared to death - in the case of print, very likely to death. Terry - thanks - I’m “the other blogger” who left. You do a really nice compare and contrast, concisely.

Just one note - ironically, I just posted something about how the banner for Wide Open doesn’t even have Plain Dealer in it, the way its traditional blog, Open, does. I actually noticed the absence of the words “Plain Dealer” from the Wide Open site when we started it in September.

http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/11/09/picture-1000-words-the-plain-dealer-politics-blog-v-wide-open/

Again - thanks for writing about what’s going on. Clearly it highlights very serious differences in perspective to say the least, between those who embrace innovation and change and flexibility, and those who are scared to death - in the case of print, very likely to death.

]]> by: Terry http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/#comment-81084 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:58:58 +0000 http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/#comment-81084 Thanks, Tim. I'll check the WordPress forums and see if there's a plug-in (or perhaps I need to upgrade my software). I've experienced this problem many times, so much so that I've gotten into the habit of automatically copying the text before pressing "Post." Thanks, Tim. I’ll check the WordPress forums and see if there’s a plug-in (or perhaps I need to upgrade my software). I’ve experienced this problem many times, so much so that I’ve gotten into the habit of automatically copying the text before pressing “Post.”

]]> by: Tim http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/#comment-81038 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:52:32 +0000 http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/clinging-on-the-way-down/#comment-81038 I submitted a post - but read the numerals wrong and so produced the wrong answer in your anti-bot box. When I hit the 'back' arrow to correct it, a natural response, my words are gone... I hope to recreate them here, but if your site could retain them in such a human-error situation it would be nice. I'm a member of "the audience" although a little more informed than some since I often read your writing here. What I want, and I think many would agree with me, is a clear delineation of what is opinion and what is not - and that is sufficient. This delineation can often be determined empirically, although for some it's helpful if the journalism organization provides that information. The Plain Dealer erred by judging its online readers as not intelligent enough to realize that a blog could be opinionated. They overreacted in shutting it down - all they really needed to do was treat it like any other op-ed opinion column. Instead, they now appear to be willing to censor political discourse in the name of some 'pure' journalistic ethic which really doesn't exist for opinion pieces, and "the audience" knows it. They lose a piece of the local conversation. as well, which is something they can ill afford to lose these days. I submitted a post - but read the numerals wrong and so produced the wrong answer in your anti-bot box.
When I hit the ‘back’ arrow to correct it, a natural response, my words are gone… I hope to recreate them here, but if your site could retain them in such a human-error situation it would be nice.

I’m a member of “the audience” although a little more informed than some since I often read your writing here.

What I want, and I think many would agree with me, is a clear delineation of what is opinion and what is not - and that is sufficient. This delineation can often be determined empirically, although for some it’s helpful if the journalism organization provides that information.

The Plain Dealer erred by judging its online readers as not intelligent enough to realize that a blog could be opinionated. They overreacted in shutting it down - all they really needed to do was treat it like any other op-ed opinion column. Instead, they now appear to be willing to censor political discourse in the name of some ‘pure’ journalistic ethic which really doesn’t exist for opinion pieces, and “the audience” knows it. They lose a piece of the local conversation. as well, which is something they can ill afford to lose these days.

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